i don't think we know enough. she gave our preliminary assessment. we will have a full investigation now, and then we will be in a better position to put labels on things. >> i like her voice. >> while the white house has shifted its view, they don't have evidence the attack was pre planned, but then again they didn't need evidence to blame the anti-islam advise yow they never saw -- the anti-islam video they saw, right? right? >> why wait so long to call it terrorism? what is the deal? why are we so scared to call terror, terror? >> you know, from a journalism perspective and you compare the sound byt es, it might be because there was no war on terror. and we are pulling out of places. we are leaving afghanistan and giving them dates, so on and so forth. that's a sober look at is it, but it is true. >> they are trying to move away from the word. >> here is the problem. if you want to say that protesters did this, first there were no protests leading up to this in benghazi.